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government did this with libya. basically arming the opposition. and you know, your men ri's men ri is only my friend for so long. is that a wise approach? >> no. i have spent time on this issue. there's no doubt providing nonlethal communication support is extraordinary important and secretary clinton announced massive amount of humanitarian assistance and ku dos to the administration for doing that. the real problem here is that there's this struggle within the romney campaign itself over syria between neo-conservatives to militarily intervene and those who actually are more reticent and the problem is that mr. romney flip flops between one group and the other and can't quite decide which one is more important. the bottom line, however, for purposes of american interest in the middle east, arming a rag tag group of rebels at this point in time is inconsistent with understanding when's going to emerge of syria in the long run. one of the reasons why i'm reticent is because we don't really know who the rebels are. some of them are affiliates of al
government did this with libya. basically arming the opposition. and you know, your men ri's men ri is only my friend for so long. is that a wise approach? >> no. i have spent time on this issue. there's no doubt providing nonlethal communication support is extraordinary important and secretary clinton announced massive amount of humanitarian assistance and ku dos to the administration for doing that. the real problem here is that there's this struggle within the romney campaign itself...
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you saw where that led us to a government surplus in 23 million jobs created. the republicans in the next decade, did all the same sorts of things that mitt romney would like to do today, passed a tax cut for the wealthiest that led to the lowest pace of job creation since world war ii, stripped back oversight from wall street a financial house of cards that collapsed in 2008. so president clinton made clear this isn't some sort of economic theory, we've tried these policies before and you saw where we ended up. let's pursue those that work. >> ben in terms of the strategy, we were talking about the fact that mitt romney has been trotting out i won't call it stakes, maybe dried pieces of chicken in terms of policy specifics, the $17,000 bucket, et cetera, is there concern that these are enough of a distraction to turn the dynamics of the debate away from a more aggressive posture that the president might take vis-a-vis mitt romney's obfuscation. >> the american people will be tuning in for specifics tonight. they know mitt romney can ably attack the president.
you saw where that led us to a government surplus in 23 million jobs created. the republicans in the next decade, did all the same sorts of things that mitt romney would like to do today, passed a tax cut for the wealthiest that led to the lowest pace of job creation since world war ii, stripped back oversight from wall street a financial house of cards that collapsed in 2008. so president clinton made clear this isn't some sort of economic theory, we've tried these policies before and you saw...
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it will include three on the economy, one on health care, one on governing and one on the state of government. the role of government, i should say. now, both candidates will be standing at podiums. no strict time limits. each candidate will have two minutes to answer that question and then the rest of the segment will be an open discussion about the topic at hand. so that is how the debate is going to do. aides with the obama campaign say his goal is to deliver his message in a crisp and clear manner. to not seem too long winded as sometimes he has in the past. so that's really his goal and also to make the case about why he thinks he can do a better job in these next four year of turning the economy around and to really give people specifics. as i said, the first lady will be there tonight. it is their 20th anniversary. no time to really celebrate tonight. they say they will do that this weekend. >> quite a way to celebrate. thanks so much. we head tout peter alexander in denver, where mitt romney has been for several days now prepping for the debate this evening. >> you had plenty of sport
it will include three on the economy, one on health care, one on governing and one on the state of government. the role of government, i should say. now, both candidates will be standing at podiums. no strict time limits. each candidate will have two minutes to answer that question and then the rest of the segment will be an open discussion about the topic at hand. so that is how the debate is going to do. aides with the obama campaign say his goal is to deliver his message in a crisp and clear...
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>> well, mine's a government debt. i don't have any private debt. >> i paid 3% in college. >> happy anniversary, mr. president. >> 20th anniversary. >> who is going to cut the spending? who is it? it's romney. >> can i ask a question, please? >> sure. >> go ahead. i want to know what mitt romney's policy is on cancer. she relies on social security and medicare. she's not a lazy person. she worked and it's dependent for them to provide car care. i want to know what his policy is. >> we're curious about israel, how the relations are going to happen. >> regardless, we have obama or romney. >> thank you. let's go down here. do you have any questions? >> i have a question for romney. >> sure. >> i want to know where is the evidence that tickle down works. >> what? >> how does trickle down work? show me the evidence. >> how does cutting the taxes for the rich help everybody else? thank you. we'll be right back with more "hardball" for tonight and the debate. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new
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he makes it sound like there's something really wrong getting a check from the government, makes you dependent when you may have worked from age 14 to 65, you get 15, 20 years you have good health, of benefits. that's the deal. that's not bad. why is he doing this? >> seems like they're doubling down again. romney with 47% and ryan with 30%. we're 100%. >> can you remember a time where a political party has carved out a huge part of the country saying we don't like you, we don't respect you, we want to get rid of you with the way you live. >> that's the impression they're leaving. president eisenhower didn't do that, president nixon didn't do that, president reagan made us feel like we were all in it together. >> i've never seen a politician say, i'll take the other part of the vote. i'm not interested in your half, or in this case, 70% he's giving away. >> that's right. i have never heard such language. i think it will allow obama to extend the 47% argument to not only ryan but to the entire republican party. he can say, this is a party that slices and dices the american public. in
he makes it sound like there's something really wrong getting a check from the government, makes you dependent when you may have worked from age 14 to 65, you get 15, 20 years you have good health, of benefits. that's the deal. that's not bad. why is he doing this? >> seems like they're doubling down again. romney with 47% and ryan with 30%. we're 100%. >> can you remember a time where a political party has carved out a huge part of the country saying we don't like you, we don't...
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government at the location is a part of that investigation now. tamron? >> let' play another excerpt. earlier some of the comments made. let's play them. >> the second bombing was an improvised explosive device placed on the north gate breaching the wall. it was a test by terrorists and it was successful. and we didn't respond fully and adequately. we didn't acknowledge it. we didn't talk about it. we pretended it didn't happen. it was a terrorist attack on a u.s. asset in libya. and it was never exposed. we pretended it didn't happen. well guess what. the third time the terrorists came to attack us, they were -- even more successful. killing four americans. >> of course, the congressman referring to two previous bombings at that consulate in benghazi. kelly, i don't know if you have the answer to this, but it's obviously been brought up. the state department changing the details right before this hearing. do we know if that was to get, i guess, its version out before some of the harsher questions are asked or new information even down 0 the lieutenant co
government at the location is a part of that investigation now. tamron? >> let' play another excerpt. earlier some of the comments made. let's play them. >> the second bombing was an improvised explosive device placed on the north gate breaching the wall. it was a test by terrorists and it was successful. and we didn't respond fully and adequately. we didn't acknowledge it. we didn't talk about it. we pretended it didn't happen. it was a terrorist attack on a u.s. asset in libya....
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that angered the turkish government. the prime minister says the syrian government will be held accountable for this and we also understand that turkish officials are now reaching out to nato to possibly exercise nato's article in which any member of nato that is attacked could respond and it's really just highlighting the sense situation on the turkish/syria border there after this deadly incident. the attack in aleppo you referenced really two different accounts coming out from inside syria. the syrian government, the official line from them, this was a terrorist attack, three suicide car explosions taking place in aleppo targeting a military installation, an officers club that killed 31 people. opposition activists say this was an attack targeting the command headquarters if you will of the military operating in aleppo that killed at least 40 people. over the past several days, we know that syrian rebels have been launching an offensive to try to capture the entire city of aleppo. we also know from pro government sour
that angered the turkish government. the prime minister says the syrian government will be held accountable for this and we also understand that turkish officials are now reaching out to nato to possibly exercise nato's article in which any member of nato that is attacked could respond and it's really just highlighting the sense situation on the turkish/syria border there after this deadly incident. the attack in aleppo you referenced really two different accounts coming out from inside syria....
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economy on government. >> okay. >> we're now spending the 42% of our economy on government. i don't want to go down the path to spain. i want to go down the path of growth that puts americans to work with more money coming in because they're working. >> yeah, but, mr. president, you're saying in order to get it -- get the job done, it's got to be balanced? >> if we're serious, we've got to take a balanced, responsible approach. and by the way, this is not just when it comes to individual taxes. let's talk about corporate taxes. now, i've identified areas where we can, right away, make a change that i believe would actually help the economy. the oil industry gets $4 billion a year in corporate welfare. basically, they get deductions that those small businesses that governor romney refers to, they don't get. now, does anybody think that exxonmobil needs some extra money, when they're making money every time you go to the pump? why wouldn't we want to eliminate that? why wouldn't we eliminate tax breaks for co
economy on government. >> okay. >> we're now spending the 42% of our economy on government. i don't want to go down the path to spain. i want to go down the path of growth that puts americans to work with more money coming in because they're working. >> yeah, but, mr. president, you're saying in order to get it -- get the job done, it's got to be balanced? >> if we're serious, we've got to take a balanced, responsible approach. and by the way, this is not just when it...
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>> most people you expect people to go to washington to rein in the government not get rich by it. we said a day after the filing deadline that we hope that todd akin wins. wris in direct contrast to the state of maine where the democrats won't acknowledge their candidate. >> have you guys ruled out spending money against spending money on television ads against claire mccaskell? >> we hope todd aiken wins. >> i understand rob's under a lot of pressure. i take him at his word that the nrc is not going to play there. but everything he said just about claire mccassell is a lie. >> do you guys support angus king to win in that election? >> let's be clear why in maine. the republican party forced olympia snow out of the united states senate and now they're trying to replace her with the tea party and if they thought we were going to just sit by and let that happen. >> i'm up against a hard break, we'll be right back. it's the pee to get back to you. a perfect time to join weight watchers and start losing weight and feeling good right now. [ female announcer ] join now for free. hurry o
>> most people you expect people to go to washington to rein in the government not get rich by it. we said a day after the filing deadline that we hope that todd akin wins. wris in direct contrast to the state of maine where the democrats won't acknowledge their candidate. >> have you guys ruled out spending money against spending money on television ads against claire mccaskell? >> we hope todd aiken wins. >> i understand rob's under a lot of pressure. i take him at his...
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we don't think the government should be in control of all of this. we want people to be in control. now, i'll just simply say this and i respectfully disagree with the vice president about what the american people are or aren't saying or qualified the speak on their behalf. >> you have an opinion. >> so we'll all representatives of the american people and do town hall meetings. we all talk and are engaged. >> all right. there's paul ryan. one other note on this. we have not seen an age gap this stark of two candidates in a national debate since 1988. lloyd benson and dan quayle. we all know how that went. not an oman but anyway. all talk today is focused on mitt romney's surge after last week's presidential debate. today, romney had a one-point lead in the real clear politics poll and pundits throwing suggestions in the ring of what president obama needs to do next week at the debate. here's a view of the past and the future. >> i had a different reaction to that first debate than a lot of people did. i mean, i saw -- i thought, wow. here's old moderate mitt. where you been, boy? i
we don't think the government should be in control of all of this. we want people to be in control. now, i'll just simply say this and i respectfully disagree with the vice president about what the american people are or aren't saying or qualified the speak on their behalf. >> you have an opinion. >> so we'll all representatives of the american people and do town hall meetings. we all talk and are engaged. >> all right. there's paul ryan. one other note on this. we have not...
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jobs, they spend money on government and create government created jobs through federal expenditures. that's their argument. >> and -- i don't understand the physical metaphor. the vision is gray suited bureaucrats dripping out of a faucet. >> but weird when, you know, half of the republican party or more than half is saying don't cut defense because it's going to cost us so many jobs. >> and that is their -- right. defense is spending of 4% of gdp -- >> trickle down government would be wars, right? >> we have to leave it there, unfortunately, my friend, but you are going to be continuing this conversation. >> oh, yeah. tomorrow on up a.m. we have great sound putting george w. bush and mitt romney side by side to see how much they're taking -- they're playbook correctly from him. >> i never get tired of george w. bush clips. >> we will be practicing our love tomorrow. deep cut. >> oh. practicing our love. yeah. >> coming up, the air up there, former vice president al gore comes up with a unique excuse regarding president obama's debate performance. we will ask our debate panel for th
jobs, they spend money on government and create government created jobs through federal expenditures. that's their argument. >> and -- i don't understand the physical metaphor. the vision is gray suited bureaucrats dripping out of a faucet. >> but weird when, you know, half of the republican party or more than half is saying don't cut defense because it's going to cost us so many jobs. >> and that is their -- right. defense is spending of 4% of gdp -- >> trickle down...
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trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. and trickle-down government. >> nine times, seven minutes. the term trickle-down government is nonsensical. literally. it has no meaning apart from the way it is being used politically. and its political use is to make the classic and i always thought vaguely emasculating and grossout accusation of trickle-down economics seem less understandable. make that seem less like an understandable critique of an economic plan and more like campaign mumbo jumbo you hear from both sides. it has been used to criticize economic plans that rely on supposedly magical economic effect of giving money to rich people. rich people doing better is supposed to trickle down to non rich people somehow. that is the core of mr. romney's economic ideology and economic plan. so i think they have coined this other competing trickle down term so the insult of trickle-down economics starts to just sound confusing and meaningless. trickle-down government, trickle-dow
trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. trickle-down government. and trickle-down government. >> nine times, seven minutes. the term trickle-down government is nonsensical. literally. it has no meaning apart from the way it is being used politically. and its political use is to make the classic and i always thought vaguely emasculating and grossout accusation of trickle-down economics seem less...
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and they want smaller government and they want -- a government that is really going to help -- not help them necessarily but really be there to guide them along. so they will have -- hand out as they were telling me. these women are anomalies. 80% of african-american women voted for president obama in 2008. i don't think that's going to change very much. 1%, less than 1%, of african-americans, favor romney. so these women are anomalies but with everybody they have the right to have their own opinion. and who they are going to vote for. >> so people have an informed opinion as well. >> absolutely good get people involved in the process. we are seeing a big push in ohio for mitt romney as well as president obama. we know that no republican has ever taken the white house without taking ohio. "the new york times" article that they have out also talks about african-american voting battleground states like north carolina. which president obama won by just 14,000 votes in '08. certainly could be a key in this re-election. article also notes the presidential election got 100% of african-america
and they want smaller government and they want -- a government that is really going to help -- not help them necessarily but really be there to guide them along. so they will have -- hand out as they were telling me. these women are anomalies. 80% of african-american women voted for president obama in 2008. i don't think that's going to change very much. 1%, less than 1%, of african-americans, favor romney. so these women are anomalies but with everybody they have the right to have their own...
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. >>> in iran, anti-government protests over the collapsing currency. police clashed with demonstrators. the currency lost 40% of the value in a week. >>> health officials warned dozens of weight loss substances are illegally labeled. one out of five products bought in stores or online claim to prevent or cure deadly diseases. >>> remember this? the late crocodile hunter, steve irwin clutching his baby boy as he went face-to-face with predators? that baby is 8 years old. he fed a crock hymn for the first time at the family zoo in australia. >>> this mornings dish of scrambled politics. the debate is the most tweeted event in police cal history. it sparked more than 2 million tweets. big bird from "sesame street" caused the peak of the tweets at 17,000 per minute. when romney said he loved the character but wanted to eliminate funding for the show and all public broadcasting. celebs were lighting up the stooer. bill maher said, i can't believe i'm saying this, but obama looks like he needs a teleprompter. eva longoria said i'm in new zealand watching the
. >>> in iran, anti-government protests over the collapsing currency. police clashed with demonstrators. the currency lost 40% of the value in a week. >>> health officials warned dozens of weight loss substances are illegally labeled. one out of five products bought in stores or online claim to prevent or cure deadly diseases. >>> remember this? the late crocodile hunter, steve irwin clutching his baby boy as he went face-to-face with predators? that baby is 8 years...
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there's a difference between talking in more moderate ways and pledging to govern as a moderate. the mitt we saw last week in that debate was certainly working double time to etch-a-sketch away some of his positions. take a look. >> i will not reduce the share paid by high-income individuals. well, the current rates less 20%, so the top rate, for instance, would go from 35% to 28%. regulation is essentially. this president has enacted job-killing regulations. i will eliminate them. what we did in massachusetts is a model for the nation. >> did you say on camera and other places that at times you thought it would be a model for the nation. >> you're wrong, brad. >> no, no, there's tape -- >> no, the tape out there -- continue to read the tape and the tape goes on to say for each state to be able to look at it. >> okay. but don't be fooled by romney's new language, of course. if the president wants to hold onto his job, he better make the american people understand that the so-called moderate mitt is just a mirage for the occasion. does he have it in him to do it? ron reagan is an
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>> industrial america can actually respond to government breaks. industrial america would take -- if you allowed this em eed thet money back from overseas with assistance of hiring, they would do it, but the money's all overseas. they're not repate yriated. >> why would you let them bring the money back in and all they'll do it use it for dividends? >> that's what they did under the republicans. they didn't care. they made no deal. these guys would make a deal. if you just committed to saying, listen, you have 10,000 employees now. if you have 12,000 employees a year from now, we are going to let you repatriate. but they've got to put it first. you hire, then you get the money back. because if you give them the money back first, they will just give it to shareholders. >> that's right. >> by the way, there are worse things to do than getting $2 trillion back circulating in the united states. because you know what, the shareholders aren't all gordon gecko. >> 90 million people. >> so i hear these people going, oh! they'll just give the money to share
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three on the economy, one on health care, one on the role of government, and one on governing. who does this format favor, in your opinion? >> well, i think that tomorrow we're going to be listening to pundits say that mitt romney did what he needed to do. it favors the challenger just by putting him on the same stage with the president. however, mitt romney has several obstacles to overcome. not only does he have to give specifics as we've been talking about, he has to appear warm. he has to seem empathetic. he has to connect with the voters he hasn't connected with before. but it's also true that pitfalls face the president. obama clearly, genuinely does not like mitt romney. and while he can go after him aggressively on policy, the president shouldn't seem mean-spirited, pet tu lant, or smug. so there are some pitfalls facing both candidates, some mind fields out there. >> cynthia, erin, thank you for being here tonight. cynthia, i agree with you. if you stay on msnbc, the pundits will be out tonight, not tomorrow morning, saying what should have happened. >> tonight. yes. t
three on the economy, one on health care, one on the role of government, and one on governing. who does this format favor, in your opinion? >> well, i think that tomorrow we're going to be listening to pundits say that mitt romney did what he needed to do. it favors the challenger just by putting him on the same stage with the president. however, mitt romney has several obstacles to overcome. not only does he have to give specifics as we've been talking about, he has to appear warm. he...
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we've shared what we've learned with governments and across the industry so we can all produce energy more safely. i want you to know, there's another commitment bp takes just as seriously: our commitment to america. bp supports nearly two-hundred-fifty thousand jobs in communities across the country. we hired three thousand people just last year. bp invests more in america than in any other country. in fact, over the last five years, no other energy company has invested more in the us than bp. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. today, our commitment to the gulf, and to america, has never been stronger. >>> hey, there. here's what is happening. the maker of the anti-islam film was in court earlier and committee denied lying to probation officers and using aliases. the u.s. anti--doping agency accuses lance armstrong of using performance enhancing drugs. and alex karras died at the age of 77. now back to "hardball." >>> welcome back to "hardball." well, there was some politically charged moments today on capitol hill as darrell issa looked into the attack in benghaz
we've shared what we've learned with governments and across the industry so we can all produce energy more safely. i want you to know, there's another commitment bp takes just as seriously: our commitment to america. bp supports nearly two-hundred-fifty thousand jobs in communities across the country. we hired three thousand people just last year. bp invests more in america than in any other country. in fact, over the last five years, no other energy company has invested more in the us than bp....
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mitt romney wants the government to rule against it it. he wants to regulate people's lives. president obama wants the states to decide on same-sex marriage. romney wants the federal law kept in place to keep the decision out of state hands. keep same-sex marriage banned entirely and for all time. president obama stepped up and rescued the auto industry, mitt romney said to lett
mitt romney wants the government to rule against it it. he wants to regulate people's lives. president obama wants the states to decide on same-sex marriage. romney wants the federal law kept in place to keep the decision out of state hands. keep same-sex marriage banned entirely and for all time. president obama stepped up and rescued the auto industry, mitt romney said to lett
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americans, we get the government we deserve. it's been six days since mitt romney stood on that stage with president obama and lied for 90 minutes. and currently, polling shows more americans believe him. here's the famous sound byte for you again. >> there's an old saying in tennessee that says fool me once, shame on you. we can't get fooled again. >> that sound byte has a different meaning to me now. i hope it does to you as well. this is mitt romney's america. the rich get richer at the expense of the middle class and the poor in this country. older americans are on their own when it comes to health care. poor americans are at the mercy of the right-wing governors who want to go after the health care funds.
americans, we get the government we deserve. it's been six days since mitt romney stood on that stage with president obama and lied for 90 minutes. and currently, polling shows more americans believe him. here's the famous sound byte for you again. >> there's an old saying in tennessee that says fool me once, shame on you. we can't get fooled again. >> that sound byte has a different meaning to me now. i hope it does to you as well. this is mitt romney's america. the rich get richer...
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we had 600,000 government jobs added in the last two months. we had 873,000 jobs by a household survey, which is a total estimate from 50,000 phone calls. of those 600,000 were temporary workers. chris, these numbers are all a series of assumptions, tons of assumptions, and it just seems somewhat coincidental that the month before the election, the numbers go one tenth of a point below where they were when the president started, although i don't see anything in the economy that says these surges are true. the 873,000 jobs in the household survey is the strongest economy since 1983. i don't think you can find an economist, there were 25 of them this morning that predicted 8.1% to 8.2%, but they did predict 114,000 jobs. we got 114,000 jobs, and somehow the assumptions ended up at 7.8%. >> well, let me get back to your tweet this morning. it must be embarrassing for you to do a tweet now after the power you used to have. i mean, tweeting doesn't seem like something i'd hear from jack welch, and i mean it. here you put out the word, unbelievable j
we had 600,000 government jobs added in the last two months. we had 873,000 jobs by a household survey, which is a total estimate from 50,000 phone calls. of those 600,000 were temporary workers. chris, these numbers are all a series of assumptions, tons of assumptions, and it just seems somewhat coincidental that the month before the election, the numbers go one tenth of a point below where they were when the president started, although i don't see anything in the economy that says these...
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and that people even like what government is doing until the single-digit approval numbers for all of congress so they will support the anti-government party and perpetuating the pain that americans feel in this recession so they will throw out obama. it is not a bipartisan problem. it's an asymmetrical problem and historic. it's shocking it's not a national scandal that one party said we will put party aahead of country and inflict pain on america to have electoral success. >> do you think if republicans vote to raise taxes, governor norquist's head will explode? >> yes. the threat of that kind of primary challenge from that part of the party kept it for 22 years. amazing. >> before we go, one of us was bestowed a huge honor this weekend. a p aaody of s.e. cupp made it into an "snl" kick. >> i'm rachel maddow. we try to pick up the pieces and make sense of barack obama's perform in wednesday's debate. as we call it on msnbc, the worst thing ever happened anywhere. joining me toint is the reverend al sharpton. >> i'm never forget where i was the night of that debate. i was here. >> ot
and that people even like what government is doing until the single-digit approval numbers for all of congress so they will support the anti-government party and perpetuating the pain that americans feel in this recession so they will throw out obama. it is not a bipartisan problem. it's an asymmetrical problem and historic. it's shocking it's not a national scandal that one party said we will put party aahead of country and inflict pain on america to have electoral success. >> do you...
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. >> the government stepping in to bailout chrysler and gm? >> i think it depends on who you ask. >> it was, do we save chrysler and gm, what do you do? >> again, this is a false choice. >> so you would -- >> it needs to be done under the umbrella of the free enterprise system. >> as we sit here today, was that a good vote or a bad vote? >> i personally would have had trouble with stripping these hardworking -- >> that's mandel running against sherrod brown. it's almost painful to see him trying to duck around answers, ryan. >> his entire campaign has been difficult to watch. it's been completely disastrous. the republican expected to pick this seat up. instead, he's getting beat pretty handedly. it's hard for him to grapple with the fact that this intervention with the auto industry actually helped and that's what is helping the president there. i do think that voters do generally understand that it's businessmen like mitt romney who are the kinds of people who led this offshoring over the last 20 to 30 years when private equity buys the fact
. >> the government stepping in to bailout chrysler and gm? >> i think it depends on who you ask. >> it was, do we save chrysler and gm, what do you do? >> again, this is a false choice. >> so you would -- >> it needs to be done under the umbrella of the free enterprise system. >> as we sit here today, was that a good vote or a bad vote? >> i personally would have had trouble with stripping these hardworking -- >> that's mandel running...
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and as you heard chairman issa say, there is apparently videotape the government has that shows that it was very calm there about an hour before the -- sort of the melee began. a lot of frustration about that. still a sense they're not getting all the answers they want. some of that is because there's an ongoing investigation, in fact, three of them. the people from the state department who were there to give testimony had some concern about stepping on the investigation. so, that's part of it. the other part is a real inquiry about what should the level of security be because two of the men who were at the witness table had been a part of security in libya, claimed they had made requests for additional support on the ground, based on things they were seeing there and that that had been denied. now it's a question of, were the right decisions made about the level of security needed? of course, after something this deadly, that makes the decisions made earlier look like there were problems. and the state department official who made the decision still believes they had the right numbe
and as you heard chairman issa say, there is apparently videotape the government has that shows that it was very calm there about an hour before the -- sort of the melee began. a lot of frustration about that. still a sense they're not getting all the answers they want. some of that is because there's an ongoing investigation, in fact, three of them. the people from the state department who were there to give testimony had some concern about stepping on the investigation. so, that's part of it....
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>> a lot of people are saying that government is cooking the books here. >> these guys are saying they feel like they cooked the books. >> look, i got to say if you're cooking the books, 7.8% unemployment, get the. [ beep ] recipe. if you're cooking, make something nice for people. hey, unemployment's 2.6%. everybody, we're going to eat! >> ever since mitt romney called out big bird by name at last week's presidential debate, president obama's campaign has been having a lot of fun with it. at a san francisco fund-raiser last night, president obama himself once again drew attention to mr. romney's plan to cut government funding for pbs. >> for all you moms and kids out there, you should have confidence that finally somebody is cracking down on big bird. elmo has been seen in a white suburban. he's driving for the border. oscar is hiding out in his trash can. we're cracking down on them. governor romney's plan is to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring the hammer down on sesame street. >> the obama campaign now featuring big bird in a new tv ad out this morning. this is
>> a lot of people are saying that government is cooking the books here. >> these guys are saying they feel like they cooked the books. >> look, i got to say if you're cooking the books, 7.8% unemployment, get the. [ beep ] recipe. if you're cooking, make something nice for people. hey, unemployment's 2.6%. everybody, we're going to eat! >> ever since mitt romney called out big bird by name at last week's presidential debate, president obama's campaign has been having a...
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well, actually government secrets to prepare a defense, i don't think so. and here's a secret for you, the top terrorist, osama bin laden, is dead. >>> no doubt if the president wins re-election those and other far right scenarios will get a new luster for the second term. because fantasy leads to more fantasy. >>> up next, the big debate last night between elizabeth warren and scott brown. well, who won that one? that was a top of the card. who lost and what does it mean for the battle for the senate? you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. if we want to improve our schools... ...what should we invest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ...nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. humans -- sometimes life trips us up. and sometimes, we trip ourselves up, but that's okay. at liberty mutual insurance we can "untrip" you as you go through your
well, actually government secrets to prepare a defense, i don't think so. and here's a secret for you, the top terrorist, osama bin laden, is dead. >>> no doubt if the president wins re-election those and other far right scenarios will get a new luster for the second term. because fantasy leads to more fantasy. >>> up next, the big debate last night between elizabeth warren and scott brown. well, who won that one? that was a top of the card. who lost and what does it mean for...
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the one reliable policy you can always count on republicans controlling national government to push through are tax cuts on the wealthy. they won't close deficits, they won't do a lot of other things they say, but the one thing they will do, you can bank on it, is cut taxes for the rich. and that is hanging around him. people saw how that worked the last time. they're going through a recession that has hammered the working class in the way it has benefited the wealthy. and on top of that, he wants to do these tax cuts for the rich. that is the core truth that he has to defend. >> it is hard for him to connect with the middle class when he offers a policy like that. it's more of the same, no doubt. i want to go back to what ezra was talking about, about the economic model that the obama administration had and talking about where unemployment was going to go and how good it was going to be. all of that discussion was being presented to the american people, not knowing that we were going to have is a record amount of filibusters. obstruction is not an excuse. it is a reality. and i believe the
the one reliable policy you can always count on republicans controlling national government to push through are tax cuts on the wealthy. they won't close deficits, they won't do a lot of other things they say, but the one thing they will do, you can bank on it, is cut taxes for the rich. and that is hanging around him. people saw how that worked the last time. they're going through a recession that has hammered the working class in the way it has benefited the wealthy. and on top of that, he...
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they favor small role for government. in a campaign which role of government and taxes and spending are the key issues, this breakdown is not surprising. what is interesting is that the gender gap has been around a long time. which size is able to maximize its gender better and hold its own among the other? what we are seeing is the president's ability to hold women. he is doing well among single women. quinnipiac did a poll earlier where the overall margin was in the same situation. single women were backing mr. obama 2-1. >> the numbers you would think would be daunting. more people think they are worse off four years ago than they were today. the president maintains his lead overall. you would think that would help mitt romney. >> you would think it is. it probably does to an extent. one of the problems mr. romney has is that voters just don't like him very much. we asked voters if they have a favorable, unfavorable of the president. they have a net unfavorable of the president and unfavorable for mitt romney. >> polls
they favor small role for government. in a campaign which role of government and taxes and spending are the key issues, this breakdown is not surprising. what is interesting is that the gender gap has been around a long time. which size is able to maximize its gender better and hold its own among the other? what we are seeing is the president's ability to hold women. he is doing well among single women. quinnipiac did a poll earlier where the overall margin was in the same situation. single...
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listen, cutting all the funding to pbs would not fund the federal government for one hour. that's how small a percentage that is, federal funding for public broadcasting. so swing voters know this isn't serious. they know they aren't hearing serious proposals. >> i want to play for everybody those people who are for president obama, their reaktss after this disappointing show on wednesday. >> i think he could have done better. >> i think that president obama is -- needs to put his gloves on and fight back. >> i didn't know quite what was going on as far as, you know, maybe he's dealing with some crisis in the middle east. >> i think maybe he needs to rest. >> looking for easy excuses for the president there, but for those undecideds around the country, those looking for passion from a candidate, didn't mitt romney display more passion about wanting to get hired for a job? >> yeah. there's no doubt that he had a better night, and everyone has conceded that, including the president's supporters. and i think when you look, the biggest thing to me was the president's closing st
listen, cutting all the funding to pbs would not fund the federal government for one hour. that's how small a percentage that is, federal funding for public broadcasting. so swing voters know this isn't serious. they know they aren't hearing serious proposals. >> i want to play for everybody those people who are for president obama, their reaktss after this disappointing show on wednesday. >> i think he could have done better. >> i think that president obama is -- needs to put...
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well, actually government secrets to prepare a defense, i don't think so. and here's a secret for you, the top terrorist, osama bin laden, is dead. >>> no doubt if the president wins re-election those and other far right scenarios will get a new luster for the second term. because fantasy leads to more fantasy. >>> up next, the big debate last night between elizabeth warren and scott brown. well, who won that one? that was a top of the card. who lost and what does it mean for the battle for the senate? you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. the country right now with more people watching and more dollars being spent than any other senate contest around the country. and last night in massachusetts senator scott brown and harvard law professor elizabeth warren took to the stage for a fiery second debate. you wouldn't normally think of the home state of ted kennedy and tip o'neill holding a tossup race but brown is holding his own against warren. and for him to be successful, he must convince obama voters in massachusetts and obama is expected to
well, actually government secrets to prepare a defense, i don't think so. and here's a secret for you, the top terrorist, osama bin laden, is dead. >>> no doubt if the president wins re-election those and other far right scenarios will get a new luster for the second term. because fantasy leads to more fantasy. >>> up next, the big debate last night between elizabeth warren and scott brown. well, who won that one? that was a top of the card. who lost and what does it mean for...
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who are dependent on government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they're entitled to haek, to food, to housing, to you name it. and they will vote for this president no matter what. and so my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. >> howard, i opened the show tonight with what we call our cold open. i said does obama like you? and there's a lot of people who are going to see that ad and say, i'm in that picture somewhere. i'm a veteran, i'm this kind of person, i'm that kind of person. am i in that list of 47%? the answer, i guess, is yes. >> well, the flip side of what chuck was talking about in terms of the still existent enthusiasm gap on the obama side, on the romney side i think mitt romney has kind of maxed out on the people who are going to vote for him because they're against obama. mitt romney's challenge in this upcoming debate and in the other debates is to show some sense of humanity and empathy
who are dependent on government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they're entitled to haek, to food, to housing, to you name it. and they will vote for this president no matter what. and so my job is not to worry about those people. i'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives. >> howard, i opened the show tonight with what we call our cold open. i said does...
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i saw the president's vision as trickle-down government, and i don't think that's what america believes in. >> all right. let's put it through the spin cycle. steve, you were there in denver. what's your take? >> looking at that obama response, i think everybody says why didn't you say it to his face? why didn't you say that last night? i think, look, it's pretty well established by this point why this was such a disastrous debate for obama. i'll play a quick clip here, and this is a jumping-off point to talk about what he needs to do in the next debates to avoid a repeat of this. let's play a clip of an opening romney gave him that he completely missed. >> i'm not looking to cut massive taxes and reduce the revenues going to the government. my number one principle is there's no tax cut that adds to the deficit. i want to underline that. virtually everything you said about my tax plan is inaccurate. so if the tax plan he described were a tax plan i was asked to support, i'd say absolutely not. i'm not looking for 5i trillion tax cut. i won't put in a place a tax cut that adds to the def
i saw the president's vision as trickle-down government, and i don't think that's what america believes in. >> all right. let's put it through the spin cycle. steve, you were there in denver. what's your take? >> looking at that obama response, i think everybody says why didn't you say it to his face? why didn't you say that last night? i think, look, it's pretty well established by this point why this was such a disastrous debate for obama. i'll play a quick clip here, and this is...
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. >>> this morning the government will issue a warning that thousands of air bags replaced could be dangerous counterfeits. you'll be able to learn if your model is at risk. just go to safercar.gov. >>> new images of a 10-year-old little girl missing since friday. jessica origin jessica originalway was last seen walk home from classmates. >>> more than 350 million people suffer from depression worldwide. >>> jerry sandusky's rambling denials were ignored by a judge tuesday as the convicted sex abuser was september nt to pris the rest of his life. >>> and ammunition blew up at a russian dump tuesday. >>> and now your first look at this morning's dish of scrambled politics. will.i.am played music before a rally for president obama in ohio. and he reminded the crowd about the controversy over funding for children's public television. >> may sound silly, you may laugh, but this is the theme song to my childhood and i want to play it for y'all. ♪ >> there you go. at another rally yesterday, former president bill clinton discussed being president obama's secretary of explaining stuff. >> at my ag
. >>> this morning the government will issue a warning that thousands of air bags replaced could be dangerous counterfeits. you'll be able to learn if your model is at risk. just go to safercar.gov. >>> new images of a 10-year-old little girl missing since friday. jessica origin jessica originalway was last seen walk home from classmates. >>> more than 350 million people suffer from depression worldwide. >>> jerry sandusky's rambling denials were ignored by a...
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you worked in the government, in the white house under clinton. it's absurd. explain to us -- walk us through. we shouldn't have to debunk this, but walk us through why it's not credible, possible, plausible. >> let me give you a story that illustrates why it's so implausible. back when president clinton was running for his second term, the bureau of labor statistics and bureau of economic affairs that comes up with the gdp number were changing the way we measure gdp growth, okay? and they were going to something that is a technical term called chain weighted gdp. >> sure. yeah. >> and the result of going to chain weighted gdp was that the gdp number would be lower than in the old methodology. the president was furious because everyone thought they were coming up with a number that was lower. he said, can't you stop this? can't you -- can't you wait until after the election? we said, no. they're an independent agency. we can't touch them. what we can do is try to explain what the numbers are. >> right. >> how they're derived, what does chain weighted do. the p
you worked in the government, in the white house under clinton. it's absurd. explain to us -- walk us through. we shouldn't have to debunk this, but walk us through why it's not credible, possible, plausible. >> let me give you a story that illustrates why it's so implausible. back when president clinton was running for his second term, the bureau of labor statistics and bureau of economic affairs that comes up with the gdp number were changing the way we measure gdp growth, okay? and...
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of government, and here is how it's going to work. moderator jim lehrer will start each segment off by asking a question. he will give each candidate two minutes to answer the question, and then they'll use the remainder of the time to have a discussion about the topic at hand. so that's how it's going to work. of course, both of these candidates putting the final touches on their debate preparations. they're being incredibly tight-lipped, which, of course, is frustrating to those of us in the media about how exactly these debate preparations are going but both ann romney and first lady michelle obama will be there tomorrow night in denver. one more interesting note, martin, it is the first couple's 20th anniversary tomorrow night. they will be together, they will be together in denver, and they will have a proper celebration this weekend. >> wow. celebrating and working at the same time. nbc's kristin welker. thanks so much. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] eligible for medicare? that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover every
of government, and here is how it's going to work. moderator jim lehrer will start each segment off by asking a question. he will give each candidate two minutes to answer the question, and then they'll use the remainder of the time to have a discussion about the topic at hand. so that's how it's going to work. of course, both of these candidates putting the final touches on their debate preparations. they're being incredibly tight-lipped, which, of course, is frustrating to those of us in the...
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we can check tout government website. safecar.gov to learn whether or not your vehicle model is among those affected. no injuries tide to these bags. government investigators believe many of these bags have come from china. >> mandy drury, thank you. >>> neiman marcus is out with its annual holiday catalog and have some, as usual, outrageous gifts with even more outrageous price tags. how about a jet pack for $100,000? red special edition of clarins spider, 350 grand. for a mere 350,000, this hen house, hen house, yes, inspire ed, annie the musical. a pair of his and hers watches. you get a romantic trip to paris and geneva. but it will set you back more than a million dollars. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus liquid gels speeds relief to your worst cold symptoms plus has a decongestant for your stuffy nose. thanks. that's the cold truth! that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything.
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right back. >>> well, jim, when it comes to jobs, president obama prefers what i call a trickle down government solution. now, my plan is different. it involves 41 basic elements, 6 abrupt reversals of positions, and 3 outright lies. >> we're back. for political comedians the presidential debate is the gift that keeps on giving, and nobody does it better than "saturday night live." this week's show tapped into the zeitgeist of last wednesday's debate, romney stretching the truth and obama not catching him. let's watch. >> the anniversary gift, i can't believe i forgot the anniversary gift. okay. i'll be out of here by 9:00 local time. i'll have the secret service distract michelle while i hit the hotel gift shop for some kind of anniversary present. they had a denver broncos sweatshirt. she might like that. the hotel had some nice bathrobes for sale. that could be good. >> excuse me, governor, mr. president? >> i'm sorry, yeah, yeah. what's up? >> mr. president, governor romney has just said that he killed osama bin laden. would you care to respond? >> no, you two go ahead. >> with me now is li
right back. >>> well, jim, when it comes to jobs, president obama prefers what i call a trickle down government solution. now, my plan is different. it involves 41 basic elements, 6 abrupt reversals of positions, and 3 outright lies. >> we're back. for political comedians the presidential debate is the gift that keeps on giving, and nobody does it better than "saturday night live." this week's show tapped into the zeitgeist of last wednesday's debate, romney stretching...
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a pasthun-dominated government there. so there is really little reason to see we'll get much out of the negotiations. secretary clinton is brilliant as a diplomat, she is trying to pull together what she has got. but the fact of the matter is, we're coming out. the taliban knows it. so does the karzai government, why would this not be a bad situation? >> so looking at history, sir, is the u.s. the soviet union? >> well, no, not at all. we're actually in there, and i think in a legitimate way. with a punitive expedition to try to respond to the attack, which was launched and coordinated from afghanistan. and, so i think the intervention was legitimate. it was flawed execution, starting with the bush team. president obama surged more forces in there, did some good on the ground. but it didn't produce an afghan government that was competent, and had some sense integrity, the key to afghanistan is pakistan, and possibly, they're on the verge of unraveling also, potentially with nuclear weapons, so tough situation for america.
a pasthun-dominated government there. so there is really little reason to see we'll get much out of the negotiations. secretary clinton is brilliant as a diplomat, she is trying to pull together what she has got. but the fact of the matter is, we're coming out. the taliban knows it. so does the karzai government, why would this not be a bad situation? >> so looking at history, sir, is the u.s. the soviet union? >> well, no, not at all. we're actually in there, and i think in a...
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you let the federal government spend trillions of dollars, and good things will happen. we republicans disagree with it today. we disagreed with it for the past four years. we've disagreed with it for the past 40 years. so just to say we republicans just want the economy to fail, with all due respect to joe, that's irresponsible. >> i think the president believes in the private sector maybe a little bit more than that. the other thing is, obama, they were saying he tanked the economy going into the election four years ago. and now, of course, he's manipulating the numbers to make it look good, he's pretty good, this obama guy, manipulating the economy. but my feeling is the economy is actually picking up. >> it is. >> we slowed down in the spring, and now it is picking up. housing is up. >> exactly. >> autos up. >> consumer confidence is up. >> consumer confidence is up. union pacific. >> stock market. >> said his traffic on his railroad is up over last year. that's huge. >> you know, i have had a good friend in florida that -- earl durden, late, great earl durden, he ha
you let the federal government spend trillions of dollars, and good things will happen. we republicans disagree with it today. we disagreed with it for the past four years. we've disagreed with it for the past 40 years. so just to say we republicans just want the economy to fail, with all due respect to joe, that's irresponsible. >> i think the president believes in the private sector maybe a little bit more than that. the other thing is, obama, they were saying he tanked the economy...
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security they are uncertain what camp he would fall into and are uncertainly themselves about how he would govern. would he take the lead in bombing iran if the mullahs were getting to close or just back up the israelis one of his senior advises asked. would he push for peace with the palestinians or live with the status quo? he's left himself a lot of wiggle room. if they don't know, who does? >> steve clemons is editor-at-large and david corn has a new book out tomorrow. you broke that story. steve, i'm going to be pretty broad here and just start with my critique of romney. every time he speaks he lists more fronts he wants to get hotter and he wants to stay in longer whether it's afghanistan or iraq, he wants to go in deeper. should have gone in deeper on libya and syria. should be tougher on drawing a bright line earlier than anybody but the israelis in terms of the iranian nuclear threat. everything is go to war, go to war. name anyone in his family history going back or forward who has ever put on a military uniform. they have no intention of participating in all these wars in any way and
security they are uncertain what camp he would fall into and are uncertainly themselves about how he would govern. would he take the lead in bombing iran if the mullahs were getting to close or just back up the israelis one of his senior advises asked. would he push for peace with the palestinians or live with the status quo? he's left himself a lot of wiggle room. if they don't know, who does? >> steve clemons is editor-at-large and david corn has a new book out tomorrow. you broke that...
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is a money pit in which the -- some very, very wealthy people have -- billionaires trying to buy a government. first time in history seeing the full flower of the supreme court decision in citizens united. it's disgusting and this country can't continue down this road. we have to find a way to fix that and repair the damage done by the citizens united decision from the supreme court. >> when we do the postmortem, david, do you think we'll say that ads made a difference, super-pac money made the difference? >> money is a resource and not an outcome. it's what you say and do with it. races of candidates with a ton of money and nothing to say with the money and so i think that ultimately campaigns have got to figure out what's the compelling reason that the candidate should be elected. the amount of money is a result of the campaign reform bill and the associated decisions after that. you have a situation where i would suggest that candidate voice has been diminished of super-pacs. you hear more from the super-pacs than the candidates themselves. >> one of the things that both of these candidate
is a money pit in which the -- some very, very wealthy people have -- billionaires trying to buy a government. first time in history seeing the full flower of the supreme court decision in citizens united. it's disgusting and this country can't continue down this road. we have to find a way to fix that and repair the damage done by the citizens united decision from the supreme court. >> when we do the postmortem, david, do you think we'll say that ads made a difference, super-pac money...